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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
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Posted - 2014.04.07 23:55:00 -
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Ok, seriously, what is with the power grid nerfs? These aren't just here and there either, but 150 or more. I mean, was the Vigilant or the Ashimuu or the Cynabal really so spoiled for grid as all that?
Give the Ashimuu back it's third utility highslot. If you're serious about making it viable for NOS, then don't make me sacrifice a turret to use 3 of them. The ship's dps sucks badly enough as it is.
And unfuck the Cynabal, I guarantee you that it's use will drop off the map with the proposed stats.
Oh, and people? Quit freaking crying about bonused webs. You're worse than carebears, whining for nerfs.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
4484
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Posted - 2014.04.08 00:42:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Naomi Anthar wrote:
"while doing BATTLESHIP DAMAGE with damage application of frigate" fix it for you. Also it is faster than said maller , does better with cap problems. Also it does recon ship job better than recon ship at short ranges.
Yea, how it dares ...
Its damage is on par with things like the Thorax (830 DPS) and the Vexor (1k dps), stop being so dramatic 200 more dps over said thorax ... is still noticeable difference and Vexor dps ... not sure from what hole you got the numbers. But i bet this hole start with "A" letter. Either way those ships will have close to 0 tank while doing this dps, and completly 0 utility ... yeah and not even close to being apply this dps so easily. I'm not dramatic - you can keep your vigilant if you ask me. But by saying it is so nerfed by the changes is quiet silly. Just because you will have to fit ions now ? Still its going to be outstanding and well performing ship. Now also with more speed and lockrange for rail retardness.
Notice how both of those ships are T1 cruisers, with negligible cost in comparison to the Vigilant? And yes, the Vexor can output about 1k with heat, full rack of guns, double webs, and (I think) Heavy Drones is where those numbers come from.
The Vigilant damn well better be superior in some ways, otherwise there is literally no reason to fly it compared to the T1 Gallente cruisers.
That whole "niche" thing that Grath was talking about? That means that ships have a reason to exist. What you're talking about, is that apparently the Cynabal should be worse than the Stabber. Because that's what you're asking for, by complaining about the Vigilant in comparison to the T1 Gallente cruisers.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
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Posted - 2014.04.08 01:35:00 -
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Blueclaws wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Give the Ashimuu back it's third utility highslot. If you're serious about making it viable for NOS, then don't make me sacrifice a turret to use 3 of them. The ship's dps sucks badly enough as it is. I would disagree with this. Consider the bonus it gets to the NOS with this pass now and the ROF buff as well. Also just doing some funny math, it looks like with 2 turrets and the additional drone damage plus a heat sink in the new low slot you have slightly more DPS than a 3 turret one heat sink setup now. On top of that depending on if you use an ACR in your setup now, you may not need it and could fit another trimark or damage rig. Again funny math  I could be terribly wrong.
Why would I *not* need an ancillary current router? The ship is losing 200 grid.
A few drones isn't worth that. It's literally not. I'd rather they just keep the damn drones, and not gut the fitting.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
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Posted - 2014.04.08 09:05:00 -
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And Naomi misses the point again.
Apparently it's "Grr, Blasters!" in here tonight. Yeah, it can deal about a thousand. But when you say things like "has no problem applying it", that's just bullshit.
Range is part of damage application. It's got, what? 2.5km optimal, *maybe* 8km falloff?
Stop being such an EFT warrior, and look at the ship in the game, with real scenarios, not on paper.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
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Posted - 2014.04.08 10:45:00 -
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Medalyn Isis wrote:Show us where the nasty vigilant touched you? You seem butt hurt about them. As others have repeated countless times, and even CCP have said it themselves, it is the 90% webs which are the problem, nothing to do with the Vigilants fittings. You are barking up the wrong tree. Edit- plus looking from your kill history, all you fly is T1 frigates and the occasional T1 cruiser. Do you really expect to have a good success rate going solo vs a pirate faction cruiser worth 20x the amount. Again, it seems you are yet another FW scrub thinking the game should be balanced around epic 1v1 frigate battles.
And while it's important that price is not a key balancing factor, it is important to understand that something which is much harder to get, more expensive, and more skill intensive to fly than a T1 cruiser, MUST be better than the comparable T1 cruiser, and/or it must be able to fill a niche that the T1 cruiser cannot, otherwise the faction ship is quite literally useless.
As has been the case with the Phantasm for so. very. long.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
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Posted - 2014.04.08 12:05:00 -
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Rise, the grid on the Ashimmu is of concern as well.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
4537
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Posted - 2014.04.08 23:40:00 -
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Has anyone checked out the fittings for the Ashimmu now that it's only -120 grid instead of -200?
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
4537
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Posted - 2014.04.09 00:04:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Has anyone checked out the fittings for the Ashimmu now that it's only -120 grid instead of -200? Yeah which is actually pretty good. Removing one utility high (medium neut 175pwg) wasnt equal to 250 pwg nerf (you need to include skill ... lets not even mention implants)
That's about what I had figured myself. Napkin math for the win.
So now it just looks like the choice is up between 3 turrets and 2 Nos, or 3 Nos and 2 turrets. I halfway imagine that the addition of a dronebay will make up for the loss of the third turret in that eventuality. Ought to end up decently close to it's previous DPS rating with 3 turrets.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
4658
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Posted - 2014.04.14 01:34:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Sgt Ocker wrote:The battleships are already here; Were the new Pirate Battleship changes posted?
Don't be so obtuse.
They can be fairly easily inferred from the cruiser changes. The Vindi stays the same, probably loses some grid. The Bhaalgorn gets a web range bonus (which will be beyond evil) and probably also loses some grid, the Machariel gets *** *****, the Nightmare will be a jumbled mix of concepts, and the Nestor is still the worst ship in the game.
All we are waiting for now are the particulars. And they've already told us we'll be waiting for a while.
But whether you agree or disagree with the design philosophy being put into place so far, this the cruiser thread. So stay on topic and talk about the cruisers.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
4658
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Posted - 2014.04.14 02:18:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:All we are waiting for now are the particulars. And they've already told us we'll be waiting for a while. Start of next week, which isGǪ oh, right about now. Stay on topic? You mean like the nth "why I hate the new Gila" post? I think it's fairly obvious that the Gila drone changes are fixed in stone. The lack of dev response is one indication, but the more glaring reason would be the lack of any changes to the Worm in the Pirate Frigates thread. I for one welcome our new Gila overlords!
And that post is still more on topic than the "I want the battleship stats" posting.
You do realize they won't post it on the weekend, right? It will likely show up around 1500 GMT, so about 12 hours. I suggest checking the EVE subreddit, those people have no lives at all and the thread being posted will pop up there in about a minute and a half.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
4659
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Posted - 2014.04.14 02:31:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:And that post is still more on topic than the "I want the battleship stats" posting. Yes, if saying the same thing over and over and over can be considered "on topic"GǪ But on-topic, I think the Gila changes are going to go over a lot better than anything for the Rattlesnake.
Personally I think the Gila will become an excellent ship, and I intend to purchase a few Worms to fly as well, since that ship will no longer be the least cost effective frigate in the game.
I really do think most of the "sky is falling" is coming from people who don't want to give up their sentry drones. I've said as much a few times.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
4700
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Posted - 2014.04.15 13:35:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Sadly the nerfs to the Ashimmu's web strength (in lieu of range) will make what was a very cool hull 'meh' overall.
If you must nerf the 90% webs, then recommend a small buff to neut/nos amount and range also.
Personally I don't mind the loss of web strength on the Ashimmu as much as I mind the powergrid nerf.
But the buff to nos amount you're talking about it already there, the patch in question contains a decent buff to nos mechanics.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
5521
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Posted - 2014.04.29 12:00:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:
Can you confirm we are not losing the velocity bonus to heavy and Ham launchers?
Of course you're losing the velocity bonus. The ship doesn't get 4 bonuses.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
5764
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Posted - 2014.05.05 11:57:00 -
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Silvetica Dian wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:The Gila's role bonus paints a pretty good picture about how terrible medium drones are.
The Worm gets a 300% bonus, the rattlesnake gets a 275% bonus, the gila gets a 500% bonus?!
Think it might be time to take a look at medium drones and maybe stray away from the old linear progression that drones have? The worm always used lights so a modest dps increase. The RS always used sentry/heavy so drone damage stays the same. The gila used to use sentry/heavy but now will use mediums. The large bonus is to keep the damage output comparable to those whilst allowing the better application of mediums. A unique and valuable bonus.
Yeah, the hefty medium drone bonus is likely to compensate for the loss of sentry drones. As far as their state of balance, I would actually venture to say that medium drones are in about as good of a state of balance as light drones are.
Once the racial drone rebalance hits I think we might actually see use of Amarr drones somewhere besides sentries, for example.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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